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From SEO to CX: Crystal Ortiz on Why Customer Connection Is the Ultimate Ranking Factor

Crystal Waddell Season 5 Episode 196

In this thoughtful episode of The Simple and Smart SEO Show, Crystal chats with fellow SEO expert Crystal Ortiz, founder of Socialhart. 

With over a decade of experience in digital marketing and a background in education, Crystal O. shares her journey from retail to SEO consulting and why connecting with customers is more powerful than any ranking algorithm. 

They explore the intersection of SEO, AI, customer experience, and basic business fundamentals, revealing why treating SEO like a tool—not a strategy—is key to sustainable online success.

💡 Key Takeaways:

  • SEO is a tool, not the goal: Use it to support real human connection, not replace it.
  • Customer experience is SEO: Every part of the customer journey—from checkout flow to customer service—impacts your rankings.
  • AI shouldn't replace authenticity: AI can support content creation, but genuine insight and audience relevance must come first.
  • Creative SEO wins: SEO isn’t robotic; it's an opportunity to solve real problems creatively.
  • Basic business practices matter: A broken checkout page can undo all your SEO efforts.

🔥 Episode Highlights:

  • "If your business isn’t making customers happy, then it doesn’t matter how much SEO you do." - Crystal Ortiz
  • "SEO isn’t the value. Customer connection is." - Crystal Ortiz

Listener Action Items:

  1. Audit Your Website Experience: Go through your checkout and browsing process like a real customer. Where's the friction?
  2. Review Your Content Strategy: Ask yourself—does this content truly serve my ideal audience?
  3. Balance AI with Authenticity: Use tools to support your voice, not replace it.
  4. Emphasize Cu

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Hey, Shopify store owners! (Especially if you're selling on Etsy, too!)

Here's a quick question: Are people actually finding your products on Google?

If SEO feels confusing, overwhelming, or like something you'll "get to later", this is for you.

I'm hosting a free, seven day Shopify SEO challenge that breaks it down into simple, doable steps.

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 Hey, Shopify store owners! (Especially if you're selling on Etsy, too!)

Here's a quick question: Are people actually finding your products on Google?

If SEO feels confusing, overwhelming, or like something you'll "get to later", this is for you.

I'm hosting a free, seven day Shopify SEO challenge that breaks it down into simple, doable steps.

No tech headaches, no fluff. Join us at

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